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DastardlyReturns
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Re: Sales of old and new

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davidnorth wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 9:11 pm

I have considered making collections for individual models. This approach works well on Bound2Burst and Made2Please. Oddly, the Beauties in Bondage compilations I have released over the years have not attracted much attention. I took this to suggest that the bondage audience was not especially interested in this format. Still, it might be work a try. I should probably start with "Just Jasmine: Volume 1". The question is, should I tailor such a compilation to an individual taste, or mix the content. For example, if I make it all about gagging, it will attract the gag audience; if I make it all about tying, ditto, and so on. Or, should it contain a balance of components? I suppose it depends on how narrow the focus is for the audience at large. I am aware that some people will only buy a clip if the girl is cleave gagged, or if the girl is tape gagged, or she is wearing skimpy clothes, or she is dressed professionally, or handcuffs are involved, or, or, or. It gets to a point where a producer does not know which way to turn!!!
Yes, it seems like a "Jasmine's Greatest Hits" would be the way to go if you ever want to do a test case. And I hear what you're saying about everyone having different things they're looking for (my particular common denoninator being the specific model, Lily). To keep my music analogy going, maybe people would be enticed by old songs being "remixed and remastered"--in the case of BIB, you've done some fabulous improvements with your remastering, so people may not want to re-purchase clips they already have, but would go for a compilation that had snippets of remastered clips.

And to continue in the music vein, Greatest Hits collections often have "bonus tracks." Not sure what kind of goodies that you could add in, but I've always liked any "behind the scenes" footage that could be added on, although that may not be feasible, or of interest to anyone but me.

As you say, so many more producers now than when you started. (I have a vague memory of stumbling across a 30-second preview of Lily and Beverly, in what remains one of my fave BIB clips, all those years ago, on youtube, I think. Approaching 20 years...?) Glad to hear that the success of B2Burst has been able to make the bondage vids possible, and whatever you decide to do, you definitely deserve to put your feet up at some point.

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Re: Sales of old and new

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A Jasmine's greatest hits companion release sounds a great idea . The whole Jasmine experience really took of for me big time after Girl with the golden gag and as never really stopped hey I'm the one that will still rant on about Texas ranger. :D

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Re: Sales of old and new

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adivie wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:50 pm
You have to do what is best for your business. We all understand that part. It is a shame that new material and new models are not catching on as we had hoped they would. They do have so much potential. As to the Burst vs Bondage, that is a puzzle to me. So many more people seem to be inclined towards bondage than towards desperation. Yet, it could be more are embarrassed to admit they like the Burst movies.
Don't forget that there are many more places for us to spend our bondage budget, so it all gets spread thinner.
The desperation market is surely much smaller, but fans have fewer high-quality choices...

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Re: Sales of old and new

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GB2691 wrote:
Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:18 am
adivie wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:50 pm
You have to do what is best for your business. We all understand that part. It is a shame that new material and new models are not catching on as we had hoped they would. They do have so much potential. As to the Burst vs Bondage, that is a puzzle to me. So many more people seem to be inclined towards bondage than towards desperation. Yet, it could be more are embarrassed to admit they like the Burst movies.
Don't forget that there are many more places for us to spend our bondage budget, so it all gets spread thinner.
The desperation market is surely much smaller, but fans have fewer high-quality choices...
I know. Bondage is a far bigger field to play in. I think the problem is an insufficient flow of traffic which is hard to rectify. I can promote a little on Fetlife, but social media in general is not a place I wish to go. Both Facebook and Instagram present problems with linking people, which one does not want, and X is just... well, X. Does anybody normal use that?

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Re: Sales of old and new

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Also, the bondage audience seems to want their stuff for free, if they can! It can be so irritating. I buy it! So can you!

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Re: Sales of old and new

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DastardlyReturns wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:26 pm
davidnorth wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 9:11 pm

I have considered making collections for individual models. This approach works well on Bound2Burst and Made2Please. Oddly, the Beauties in Bondage compilations I have released over the years have not attracted much attention. I took this to suggest that the bondage audience was not especially interested in this format. Still, it might be work a try. I should probably start with "Just Jasmine: Volume 1". The question is, should I tailor such a compilation to an individual taste, or mix the content. For example, if I make it all about gagging, it will attract the gag audience; if I make it all about tying, ditto, and so on. Or, should it contain a balance of components? I suppose it depends on how narrow the focus is for the audience at large. I am aware that some people will only buy a clip if the girl is cleave gagged, or if the girl is tape gagged, or she is wearing skimpy clothes, or she is dressed professionally, or handcuffs are involved, or, or, or. It gets to a point where a producer does not know which way to turn!!!
Yes, it seems like a "Jasmine's Greatest Hits" would be the way to go if you ever want to do a test case. And I hear what you're saying about everyone having different things they're looking for (my particular common denoninator being the specific model, Lily). To keep my music analogy going, maybe people would be enticed by old songs being "remixed and remastered"--in the case of BIB, you've done some fabulous improvements with your remastering, so people may not want to re-purchase clips they already have, but would go for a compilation that had snippets of remastered clips.

And to continue in the music vein, Greatest Hits collections often have "bonus tracks." Not sure what kind of goodies that you could add in, but I've always liked any "behind the scenes" footage that could be added on, although that may not be feasible, or of interest to anyone but me.

As you say, so many more producers now than when you started. (I have a vague memory of stumbling across a 30-second preview of Lily and Beverly, in what remains one of my fave BIB clips, all those years ago, on youtube, I think. Approaching 20 years...?) Glad to hear that the success of B2Burst has been able to make the bondage vids possible, and whatever you decide to do, you definitely deserve to put your feet up at some point.
I will make a Jasmine compilation. As for the exact format, do you feel I should cram in as many shortly clips as possible, say 3 minutes each, or make the experience more leisurely with 5-6 minute clips and somewhere around 6 - 8 per compilation? What sort of experience are you looking for?

For everyone: would you care to suggest titles to include in the first one?

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Re: Sales of old and new

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davidnorth wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:08 am

I will make a Jasmine compilation. As for the exact format, do you feel I should cram in as many shortly clips as possible, say 3 minutes each, or make the experience more leisurely with 5-6 minute clips and somewhere around 6 - 8 per compilation? What sort of experience are you looking for?

For everyone: would you care to suggest titles to include in the first one?
Well, I'll throw in my two cents, but certainly the regulars on the forum (I feel like they need a nickname--The Jas-Maniacs...? :D ) should weigh in.

I guess for me, I would lean toward 3-minute clips. There are some vids where I often go to a specific moment (eg, one where Lily is tied to a chair and Raimondo handgags her) and watch that portion of the video. Again, just me personally, but shorter clips with Jasmine in different outfits, and various gags, would be my preference.

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Re: Sales of old and new

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First time out, I'd favour many short clips of Ms St James, with different outfits, varied ties & gags, plenty of struggling.
If this was a success, I'm sure we could devise some themes to hang future compilations on...

What I would really like (but I'm sure is impossible), is to persuade Jasmine to film a little introduction and/or record some narration to go with the clips...

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Re: Sales of old and new

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GB2691 wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 1:11 pm
First time out, I'd favour many short clips of Ms St James, with different outfits, varied ties & gags, plenty of struggling.
If this was a success, I'm sure we could devise some themes to hang future compilations on...

What I would really like (but I'm sure is impossible), is to persuade Jasmine to film a little introduction and/or record some narration to go with the clips...
Would be great but Jasmine doesn't view he own videos. Sure Dave could perhaps film some sort of introduction with her though regarding the video reel on her next visit. ;)

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Re: Sales of old and new

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Dazroped wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 1:31 pm
Would be great but Jasmine doesn't view her own videos...
So now's her chance... :D

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